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Direct Payments

By AnnB
Sat 16 Jun 2007 23:45

Hi everyone, we are looking at direct payments too but when social worker came out it seems very complicated, if you employ someone and they tell you they are self-employed so you dont have to pay the tax how can you be sure this is the case? Is it easier to administer than it seems?
cheers Ann

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By margo
Re: Direct Payments
Sun 17 Jun 2007 16:31

Hello Ann,
I'm no brain of Britain and I don't find the direct payments that complicated, so you should be fine. I did have an advocate from the ILA who helped me start things, but that was 10 years ago when there was more paper-work involved. The tax office send you a cd for the computor which has calculators on and thats easier than the reference books.
You have to do a quarterly form to SS, and if there isn't much tax stopped you can do quarterly returns for tax aswell.

You can check with the tax office if some one is registered as self employed or if they come to you with no P45 or Nat insurance number. The social worker should help you through every step or tell you about another company that can do it all for you. I prefer to do it myself, keeps the grey matter going.
You could also have agency staff then they do the tax but it takes away your choice of staff.
I hope this helps
Margo

By marie66
Re: Direct Payments
Sun 17 Jun 2007 22:06

Hi Anne, our D.P. just began in March this year and it's no bother at all. Smile emoticon
Here Social Services want you to use an Agency who do all the Payroll services for you, the cost of this is picked up by social services too.
All we do every month is pass on a wage slip to our P.A. and contact the wages section if she does any more or less hours during the month so they can adjust the amounts.

There's no cheques to deal with either as they BACS the salary straight into our P.A.'s bank account.
marie x

By AnnB
Re: Direct Payments
Thu 21 Jun 2007 23:00

Thanks girls for replies. Social worker coming out tomorrrow to make arrangements to get things going. I need the extra help with Mum as I have health probs myself but I am a bit worries re getting the right services and what do you do with any money that you dont use maybe one week or what happens when Mum goes into respite for odd days here and there, does this make things more complicated?

Dont know whether just to get social services carers to do whats required. Suppose its just taking the first step and going with it.

Thanks again Ann xx

By sallyann sallyann
Re: Direct Payments
Wed 26 Dec 2007 15:52

Hope somebody can answer this for me one of my carers has worked 2hours xmas day and boxing day instead of usual 4 hrs daily. she is working 2hrs on 31st dec instead of 4 i have given her the 1st of jan off and she is back on 2nd for her usual 4hrs.she is now asking me does she get statutory bank holidays or does she get double time for these days or does she get them in lieu or does she get both.
i have said she gets whatever time of at my discretion .
i am really annoyed as i have tried to be fair with all the carers and i have been working myself. love to hear others views on this cross carer. Angry emoticon

By Tricia
Re: Direct Payments
Wed 26 Dec 2007 16:05

Hello Sallyann

Could you check up with who provides the direct payment to you about these issues? As the budget which you have been given should cover the payments for the agreed time of services you are recieving.

Are these not areas which should be covered in your contract between the carer and yourself?

My daughter recently did direct payments support work and she got holiday pay when her contract came to an end as it was only for about four months work of 4 hours once a fortnight.

By marie66
Re: Direct Payments
Wed 2 Jan 2008 15:09

Hi, did you get the info you needed?

Our Daughter P.A.s for us and her contract says she gets 4 weeks paid holidays a year plus I think it's 11 stats (I can check later but it's around that anyway!)

We use an agency for support with anything that comes up regarding our D.P. and it's working out well.

marie x